On September 3rd, 2004, Equinox was asked,

Could you talk about emotions and what they are?

EQ: In most cases, emotions upon Terra are learned experiences to different stimuli, they are reactions. Is this not so?

I could see it like that. Go on.

EQ: Thee are trained to have emotions and to have specific emotions for specific events. Is this not so? Are there not entities that react to death differently than others? And we are not talking the personal death, but he death of someone they care about. Are there not entities that act in the emotion of joy in that event and entities upon Terra that act in the emotion of extreme pain in that event. Is this not learned? So, as a child, something is felt and it is given a name and thee are told it is in response to an event. And then it becomes learned. Dost thou understand? Generally, if thee watch the very, very young upon Terra, their only reaction is to pain and discomfort. Is this not so? Otherwise everything is just an experience. Is this not so?

Except I notice they smile a lot.

EQ: Is it a smile? We said the very, very young.

How young are you talking?

EQ: Infant. Young infant. Is that a smile? We know that thee, because thee have learned an emotion, want to perceive this entity as smiling at thee, from the very first day. Is it a smile or are they experiencing the use of muscles?

Can’t it be both?

EQ: Not with the very, very young, for thee are attributing an emotion.

Yes, but when the baby is in the womb and the woman experiences different emotions…

EQ: No.

Those aren’t transmitted?

EQ: No. The only emotion, what thee would call an emotion that is transmitted, is anything that could be life threatening to that entity. Otherwise, what thee are saying is an aborted fetus has the emotion of loss. Dost thou believe this?

No, I don’t think that they do because they don’t know what gain is.

EQ: If an entity does not have any perception of joy, how does it know it? It is a learned response. It may feel what thee are feeling, but it does not understand what that is. It has no context. So, this baby smiles or does a muscle twitch and mommy responds by doing something wondrous for it. It learns, “Hmmm, I can do this again and I shall have something wondrous occur.” Infants are wondrous beings in their simplicity. Humans are wonderful in their complexity, and their complexity is learned. It is wondrous. What does that mean that these things are learned?

That we’re programmed?

EQ: It means there is a capability of unlearning that which is not working. This is so wondrous.

To reprogram.

EQ: To unlearn. Programming makes it sound as though it was insidiously done, does it not? We do not believe thy parents insidiously created thy problems. We believe that thy culture teaches thee lessons that somehow, often, are perceived erroneously, and we will deal with this in the meditation.

As far as infants go, because they are so pure, can they look at a person and see their aura? Can they see through the person, if you will, because they come from a really pure place? Do you understand what I’m asking?

EQ: Yes, we understand what thee are asking and we would say even if they can - which is irrelevant - they would not know good and bad. They would not know what they were seeing. All things to them are natural or unnatural in the case of they have never felt them before. Dost thou understand? So, seeing for them, even if they could see all the spirits that surround thee, it would not be natural or unnatural, it would just be. And as they grew and begin to learn that not everyone can do this, they unlearn it. Dost thou understand? So, it is not relevant whether they can or can not.

There is a viewpoint that emotions, to a greater or lesser degree, are connected to brain chemistry.

EQ: And this is partially true, absolutely. But first, something must set off that brain chemistry. Is this not so? It doesn’t just happen, something creates it. For instance, thee look at another human and thee think to thyself, “This entity fits my vision of physically attractive.” Brain chemical goes, “My, my! Procreation!” And begins to send out. Then thee have an emotion attached to this. After thee have a physical reaction then thee must put an emotion on it. And that emotion eventually is, “Oh! I must love this being because every time I look at them, I have this physical reaction.”

Can the brain chemistry precede the emotional reaction?

EQ: It always precedes the emotional reaction. We said thee look at someone and see them as physically attractive. Brain chemistry hasn’t done anything. This is a discernment of thine. Thee learned that for thee, the eyes spaced this way instead of this way, having two eyes, a nose in the middle, lips below that, a face, a particular body type, for thee, has beauty. Thee have learned this for thyself. Now, let us say, thee are 80 years old and thee look at somebody and thee think, “This is my daughter. What a beauteous woman.” Thee would not have the same chemical reaction. The visual is the same. The chemistry does not click in because thee are not looking from the point of mating. Dost thou understand?

Yes.

EQ: So, it is looking, observing that this is an attractive being, thought of, “Oh, a potential mate,” - pow - chemistry. Followed by, “We’d better put a name to this. Hmm, is lust good? No. Bad. We have been trained, lust is bad. This must be love.” Can thee actually love an entity when thee only know them a few months? Truly, can thee? Think of this. What dost thou know of that entity in just a few months?

Well you might not know that much, but is love that difficult?

EQ: Yes. Love is that difficult.

Well, it has different levels.

EQ: Ah, and this is learned by thee. Because love has no different levels. That which the Source has is pure, unadulterated love with absolutely no, none, not a one expectation.

Then why isn’t it possible to fall in love with somebody instantly?

EQ: Dost thou have the ability to connect instantaneously without expectation, give up thyself entirely with no expectation, give of thyself entirely with no expectation? We don’t believe so. This is not how Terrans are made. They’re not supposed to be made that way.

Isn’t it all about choice?

EQ: Everything is choice.

So, the difference between love and lust, when you’re talking about the levels, love is like one giant jigsaw puzzle. You just have to put the pieces together is what you’re saying, right?

EQ: Absolutely. And what we would say is more the merit of love is not about the other person making thee happy. It’s about still having that feeling when the other person makes thee sick.

So, are Terrans capable of doing this then?

EQ: Are Terrans capable of doing this then?

I’m asking you.

EQ: We’re asking you.

Well, it seems to be a pretty heavy thing.

EQ: And we don’t see that this is done well here. Dost thou?

Apparently not.

I think that Terrans are definitely capable of doing anything they put their minds to.

EQ: And haven’t we been saying this consistently? It is choice. Every being is capable of anything they believe they are capable of. Did we not say thee are fully capable of walking through that wall? That it is not solid? But thee do not truly believe that. So, can thee walk through that wall? No. If the mass of thy planet’s belief system is that that wall is too solid to walk through, thee will never walk through it. If the mass of the planet believes that love on Terra has to do with what thee get, then thee will be working on love.

So, we know it’s possible for two people to have chemistry…

EQ: Absolutely. And extreme chemistry, and the same likes and dislikes, and the same interests and laughter together, yes.

If I looked at another person, would I have to say to myself, “This is somebody who could be my mate,” or, without saying that, would the chemistry still be there? Can it be obtained any other way?

EQ: Yes. Thee can be honest with thy lust - “Wow, this one looks tasty!” There is nothing wrong with lust. This is how Terrans were created. It is, again, training that makes lust bad. Dost thou understand? There is nothing about the way thee procreate or lack of procreating, lets say, the way that thee are intimate, which is bad. The only thing that is bad in intimacy is if it creates guilt or creates children that are misused afterward. So, intimacy without responsibility, then, for thy planet, is not healthy. Dost thou understand? That doesn’t mean there aren’t planets where there are many intimate encounters that result in procreation but that neither individual - or in some cases threesome - have anything to do with their procreation once it is established. It is a whole other sect of the population that takes care of it. Different learning, different place. Within thy own planet different places are handled differently. Dost thou think that if thee are the eighth wife of a Sheik - dost thou all know what this is?

Yes.

EQ: That the fifth and fourth expect love? Affection? Attention? Intimacy?

I would think so.

EQ: Absolutely not. It is truly a business arrangement and love does not play into this in the least. And procreation plays into it and family plays into it and money plays into it, but there is no expectation of anything but those things. Not even of survival. For, if she becomes a dissatisfaction to her mate, he can do away with her, legally. And they choose to have this as their life. For thee, we hear, “Wow!” For thee do not understand it, and thee do not live it, and thee do not want to live it. Thy soul made a different choice. Not better. Not worse, just different. For them, they may be exceedingly happy with this situation. It is very un-complex, is it not? They know what is expected from birth to death. They know. There’s not all this trauma about “Who am I? Where do I go from here? What is next?” They know. And for many, this works.

Does fate come into love?

EQ: We believe that sometimes two entities are meant to act out a particular dance by the souls. If thee are meaning that as fate, then yes. But thee can still choose not to do the dance. Dost thou understand? Everything is ultimately thy choice, even if thee don’t realize it. If thee have an accident and thy car is completely destroyed and it was not thy fault, somebody hit thee. Did thee have a choice in this?

[ed. At this point the discussion proceeded onto the Fate tangent before resuming]

We were talking about emotions and then we were talking about love. I’d like to wrap this question up by asking is love really an emotion?

EQ: No. Love is the energy of being. If the Source is love then love is the Source and it’s the energy of being. It is the energy of being whole. It is the energy of linkage. It is energy. Thee feel it as an emotion on Terra because, as we have said, thee confuse it with lust. And thee confuse it with need. For all entities on Terra have a need to be understood. And when thee meet someone thee feel this from, thee call it love.

So love is being in the wholeness and in the completeness. It’s not…

EQ: It’s not grabbing something to be completed.

What is completeness?

EQ: Completeness is the knowing - and when we say the knowing, we are not saying the knowing here [gesturing to head] - the knowing that all things are in their perfection at all times, that there is no wrong or right, there is no good or bad. All things are perfection. That is a completeness that is indescribable. And thee have had glimpses of it. Everyone in this room has had glimpses of it with no connection to another person. This is truly, truly what love is.

In order to feel love, you have to be complete yourself, don’t you?

EQ: To feel this type of love, yes.

Many years ago you did a light show for me and the energy - we use words to express, but the words are…

EQ: Are inadequate.

Are inadequate. But the love and completeness of what you gave me as a gift just brought tears to my eyes it was so incredibly awesome. And the word ecstatic finally had meaning for me.

EQ: This is a good word. Yes. And this is what we are saying - we do not know how to verbalize it, all we can say is each and every one of thee in this room, at some time, have felt that ecstatic feeling of completeness, of complete peace and utter connection, even if it’s just a moment. This is it. This is love.

Is it possible for us to connect with that - well, anything’s possible…

EQ: Absolutely.

How can we get more of it? How do we connect better with that?

EQ: We believe on Terra, as it stands, meditation is the closest way.

And you don’t have to experience this with another person.

EQ: No.

It could be happenstance.

EQ: Absolutely. It could be that thee look at a flower and all of a sudden, thee just know and that is it.

Do you recommend any certain kind of meditation?

EQ: What we recommend is what ever works. Each entity has their way. And sometimes it takes some exploration to find their way. We know this entity originally found a way through bathing. This was her way. She is originally from a water planet. Submerging in water gave her that peace that she needed to do what she did. Each of thee have thy way.

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